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forensicks) wrote2024-03-10 08:59 pm
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[Walter has recorded a video message from the point of view of someone who has just come through the door into his cabin and sees Walter at his desk in the chair turned around to face the viewer. He gives a little salute-wave.]
Didn't get me. But nice try.
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About two weeks into the Narrenschiff, Justine found me and explained she was going to stab me for blood about it. Malcolm called John, and his reaction was... interesting.
With me so far?
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Do you prefer to have this discussion by text? It seemed like the least imposing way to reach out, but I don't wish you to feel
[There's a brief pause after the line break, as Jedao searches for the right words.]
in any way unworthy of my full effort and attention, if you've kept to text only as a matter of responding in kind.
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Though I imagine you've either never heard of it or already made up your mind on the matter.
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I'm getting a mental image of a very insular heretic group with top-down emotional manipulation to maintain cohesion. Does that match?
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Not only is this reasonably accurate (particularly because cultural concepts can of course vary over time), it's also a surprisingly insightful commentary on the Narrenschiff tragedy! Excellent really 🥳 👏
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And you regard your and Justine's behaviors as similar in that context, or no?
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I would say it's true that Justine and I both did things you'd expect to happen when you deliberately house criminals together with just enough oversight to get one's guard let down. Justine really didn't hurt me that badly. I'm happy (or, well, somberly sincere) to admit that what I did was much worse. But I also think it's a little rich for John Doe to draw this distinction that she was trying to do something nice for him and isn't creepy and crazy like me. Quite simply, when he claims he didn't want her to do it, he's lying to me or he's lying to himself.
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Am I reading you wrong?
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No, not wrong :)
I expected to get stabbed. I didn't expect to get it beamed into my mind that John is this "innocent" angel who didn't want to get me stabbed, then he very much seems to get me stabbed.
Slashed really. I was prepared for worse.
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So in extraterrestrial land (a term that literally means "not Earth") what precisely do they do with ladies who get just a little stabby?
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I'm making it up as I go, and all I've got to go on is that you're the one she's wronged, and you're the one who deserves accountability for it. So I'm interested in what that might look like to you.
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If you think of something you'd like me to take into account later, let me know. I've already taken her knives away. I know wardens like Trevor will give her more, but I intend to be very annoying about finding any new ones.
Do you have an opinion on whether I discuss this with your warden?
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You're at liberty to talk with Malcolm about this matter as much as you like. He's from a background very similar to mine, so he'll easily be able to confirm how completely unrelated to justice the barge is. With a little "that's okay because the barge is different" disclaimer at the end, of course.
Do you actually want me to come up with a deranged barge accountability idea? I don't think it's right because, again, this whole setup masquerading as jail or therapy is completely insane, but what I *want* comes to mind for sure.
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I'm sure that's immensely frustrating to run into as an inmate. Sorry.
Justine almost certainly is going to continue to cause trouble, because my first job is to help her grow, and that precludes putting her in a box with a muzzle on and throwing away the key. But my second job is to make a damn good try at making it difficult for her, and my third job is dealing with the consequences when I fail.
What I want to know is what would matter to you. An apology? Better protections from her? Tit for tat? I can't promise to enact specifics sight unseen, but it would shape my focus.
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You see, being subjected to John and Arthur's physical and emotional experience of being hurt by my actions was an idea Malcolm came up with because of my lack of remorse at the time. Justine's lack of remorse seems pretty similar, going off how he talked with her about it. However, I have reason to believe she'd be able to blink off a similar experience of my pain easily.
If John is genuinely disappointed in her, then feeling *that* magical experience will get a reaction.
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It has got you started on your path, I imagine, actually putting some of what you're capable of on the table. Pardon the pun. But if I were a gambling man I'd give you at least another year.
[Jedao is absolutely a gambling man.]
I wasn't told the details of your punishment, but you're quite right that she wouldn't be fazed by the physical pain of your experience. Unfortunately, I don't control John's reaction. I do think my disappointment will matter to her as well, albeit to a lesser degree. Would you say that what you want is a consequence that gets a reaction from her?
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We've established that incapacitating inmates is limited in scope, then. What could I want *more* than a reaction, that I could possibly get?
Malcolm pointed out to me that my glib affect could get me a lot of time in prison even back in the United States, and that much I'll admit, but I do think two years for one murder is a bit odd in comparison to, say, six months for twenty. Thousand.
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